HSMP (UK Immigration) Changes
HSMP Form is changed from 1st November
Please note that HSMP application form is changed from 1st November 2004 and if you are applying now, i.e. after 1st December 2004 you MUST submit the HSMP application using New form else it will be returned back.
The welcome changes in the New form are a page where you can include your address so the HSMP Team can inform you your Case or Reference Number and an additional page for Checklist of Documents you are submitting.
We are sure this will help all the applicants.
If you have any queries you can contact us by email.
posted by www.hsmp-services.co.uk @ Friday, December 03, 2004
63 comments
63 Comments:
Can you post details about the changes to Immigration Rules related to 'Changing or switching Immigration Status While in the UK?
I wish to enquire:
- whether I need to get my qualifications assessed by NARIC before submitting my application,
- whether it is essential to submit original certificates, or attested photocopies will suffice.
Thanks in advance
Hi,
You may not need to get your qualifications validated through NARIC if you have studied for a recognised course / degree from an established university as it would normally be in the NARIC database.
As regards the certificates you MUST submit the originals. Only in cases where you do not have the original or you need original on day to day basis, you should send Notarized Photocopies
We hope this help you
Hi Friend,
Many thanks! Isn't there a risk in sending originals... as they can be lost, misplaced, or damaged? Can notarized photocopies be submitted, with undertaking that originals will be produced when required?
Thanks again..... and have a nice day!
Hi,
IT is better to send the originals and if you are woried about safe return of your documents, please use the courier facility offered by www.hsmp-services.co.uk because in most countries notary expenses are also very high
With regard to the comment about equivalency of qualifications, it often very much depends on the country (and sometimes university) from which you gained the qualification. Certainly there are a number of countries where I know a Masters is only equivalent to a Bachelors, but we have also set precedent where certain stages of professional qualifications can be deemed equivalent to a Bachelors and even a Masters.
With regard to the evidence required for HSMP, it should ideally be original, failing which it should be a notarised copy and in English. The important thing of course is what the evidence actually says! It is NOT the case that you must submit original education certificates as the previous poster stated.
As regards the new forms, they are not a welcome change but instead a revised version of older forms, which of course you would only know if you have been involved in these applications for long enough. Whilst the idea of a confirmation of receipt being issued might seem a good idea, this is really no better than a courier or royal mail confirming delivery - it makes no difference to the process and simply introduces an extra level of administration to the already overworked HSMP Team. Overall, the new forms are no improvement and have probably increased the burden of work on the already busy HSMP Team.
Regards.
Dean Marshall
Director
www.skillclear.com
Regards
Dear Sir,
I really appreciate the cause for which this site has been developed and processed. I also commend the cause for which we all give our time to understand a concept in a better way.
My query is that does the change in occupation (under which the case is filed)in any way hampers the chances of getting visa?
Thanx in advance for a sincere reply.
Akash
India
Dear Akash,
When you say change in occupation, are you referring to change in occupation after reaching the UK under HSMP or are you referring to change of occupation while your HSMP application is under process?
I think it would helps others to know your queries better if you give clear details.
We have been having problems accessing the http://www.ukhomeoffice.org/ site to download the new HSMP form . Please could you direct us to a site where we can find the forms and download easily. (We have tried several sites ) or better still please send a copy (via attachment )to my mail box. adekunletoks2001@yahoo.com
thank you
Guys, many thanks for the information you have provided here. I have a few questions regarding the HSMP program:
1. Should I put my before-tax or after-tax earnings in the section 3 “Past earnings from your work?”
2. What exchange rate should I use to calculate my earnings in GBP, given that I’ve been paid in USD? Can I only use the current rate or historical rates?
3. What evidence should I provide to prove that I can speak English? Would an MBA from a recognized b-school in the US be sufficient? Do I have to take a standardized English test in addition to that? If so, should it be IELTS or TOEFL or something else?
4. What if the university, where I did my bachelor’s, is not in the NARIC database, but the business school, where I got my MBA, is recognized by NARIC? Would it be sufficient if I just provide my MBA and undergrad transcripts and notarized copies of the diplomas, or should I somehow validate my bachelor’s degree with NARIC. If the latter is the case, what should I do to validate my diploma?
5. I am comparing this program to similar programs run by Canadian and Australian officials. My first impression is that this program less competitive compared to the other two. I can easily score the required points and get most of the support documents. The process is fairly straightforward. The processing doesn’t take much time (about 6 months compared to about 4 years in Canada, for instance). My questions in this regard are as follows:
-Where is the catch? Is it that most of the applicants, who can score at least 65 points, fail afterwards? If so, why?
- Do you expect the number of required points and/or the processing time to increase in the near future due to the high demand? For instance, for the Canadian immigration program both the processing time and the number of points have been increasing because of the growing number of applications.
-What are the benefits of hiring an immigration attorney/consultant to help prepare the application and all the other documents? The requirements seem to be fairly straightforward, so my current impression is that there’s no need to hire a third party. Could you please give me your thoughts on this matter? Why should I spend extra money on consultants?
Regards
Nick, Kazakhstan
PS. Happy holidays :)
I will randomly answer some of the questions posted:
IELTS or other evidence for ability with English has, to date, never been requested.
The reason why you should hire a reputable representative, and the reason many applications fail, is the difference between the published hsmp guidance notes and the way the Home Office ACTUALLY assess applications. There is a world of difference between the two and the goalposts are not only constantly changing but each caseworker at the Home Office can use their own judgement in each case. For example, if you send exactly the same case to two different caseworkers you may well get different results. Having said that, a case based on minimum points claimed in education, experience and earnings can be very straightforward, but again it is important to know exactly what the Home Office want to see, instead of what they publish as being what they want to see. You stated that you can easily achieve the required points... many people can, but can you evidence this in a manner acceptable to the Home Office? Long answer but hopefully answers the question.
It is always advisable to get Naric equivalency, as the Home Office no longer subscribe to the database. Having said that, we have obviously compiled a list based on experience in this area and one would hope that any reputable representative would have done the same.
Historical rates of currency exchange can be used but require quite an argument to achieve (the last time I did so took about 6 months of argument). Always better not to have to rely on this. Even when a precedent has been set, this does not mean the Home Office have to take any notice of this.
For hsmp the Home Office are interested in income that has been declared for tax purposes (primarily), therefore gross earnings should be indicated and suitably evidenced.
Hope that helps,
Regards,
Dean Marshall
Director
www.skillclear.co.uk
Please, I'm having problem downloading the HSMP form. Could you help by downloading and sending to my email account. I'd like to see the contents and then make up my mind on whether to use a Proffessional Immigrant Personnel.
My email address is: dozieud@yahoo.co.uk
If you are considering using professional representation then why would you need the forms? A decent HSMP consultant will do that for you based on the information and evidence that is provided.
I have applied for HSMP from here. I am a cima student . Is it posible to switch in to HSMP from here itself? I have not completed my course. Is it possible to go back to my home country and get the visa stamped from my home country consulate once home office approved my hsmp work permit?
Hello,
I got HSMP Clearance but i am in a quandry whether to take my wife and kid with me or should I go first and then after getting a decent job call them to UK.
Is it possible to migrate to UK without wife because I have claimed points of her qualification.
HI, iam applying from Nigeria. seeking for an exemption or waiver for sending original documents .
Please note the following:
In the event of changing jobs, applying to schools and so on , majority of employers and institution want to sight original douments,and since HSMP application processing takes a while, oppourtunities of jobs or schools may be lost because original documents will then be with the HSMP TEAM, I BELIEVE NOTORISED Copies should be acceptable, may be expensive but at least the originals will be with respective owners.
Using couriers may seem safe in the event of loss consideration but yet not totally safe, my husband and i had an experience when we applied for uk visiting visa's, even though our application was granted avital original office document was not returned, imagine if it was a certificate which is seemingly irrepaceble.
Kindly consider these as i am of the opinion that not considering applications accompanied with copies of credentials or supporting document is premature.
Copies can be verified after the application has been considered and accepted.
since an acceptance does not neccessirily mean the individual has totally qualified, your gudiance notes explains that some other processes are involved at which stages i believe applicant can be invited and original copies sighted.
Also assume all schools indiviuduals apply to require original documents, then applicants will be limited to only one school application at a time which limits his or her chance.
tHink this issue be reconsidered and i will appreciate a response as soon as possible.
My application is due to be sent next week and this issue is of great concern to me. thanks.
My email address is adejokade@mtnnigeria.net
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PLEASE I AM FINDING IT DIFFICULT DOWNLOADING THE HSMP FORM. HAS THE SCHEME BEEN STOPPED
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I am planning to apply HSMP shortly. My query is, I have a long name because of which, in most of my documents like educational certificates, income tax forms etc, it is printed in different forms like abbreviated name, partial name and in documents like passport complete name has been printed. In this case how do I prove my Identity? In other words, how would I prove all these names belong to me?
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hi my name is vishnu. i have a small query.i got the hsmp visa and i want to know that is there any particular time or period that i should be in UK from the date i got the visa.
hi my name is vishnu. i have a small query.i got the hsmp visa and i want to know that is there any particular time or period that i should be in UK from the date i got the visa.
please give me reply asap.this is very important to me.
I am in the uk studying CIMA and my wife is just one exam away from achieving her qualification in ACCA. Kindly can you let me know the equivalence of CIMA and ACCA qualifications according to the home office HSMP VISA RULES or can you kindly email me the link? please reply to ssemogerere@37.com
Hi,
I want to apply for HSMP and for qualifications, it says that I need to give evidence that I have completed bachelors or master from accredited institution. How can I get verified that my university is an accredited institution as per NARIC database? Also now that I have done my bachelors and masters (Post Graduate Diploma in Business Management), do i need to submit both the certificates or only for the masters? Pls advise
Thanks!
My DOB is 15th Oct 1978 so I will be completing 29 on 15th Oct this year. The payment I will be making will be through a postal order. Pls advise as when should the application should be received by the UK authorities? I am staying in India
Sir,
My name is Shahbaz and I also applied for HSMP but due to My MCS Degree i did not get HSMP. But i want to know that the Fee of HSMP 400 Sterling Pound which i paid to Home office after refusal of HSMP can i get remaining amout of 400 Pounds after deduction of 20%? or can Home office send me remaining amount after refusal of HSMP?
Hope you will oblige me.
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hello,Please kindly inform me of how long it takes to get your documents verified and hopefully granted a visa after submission of application?
Thank you.
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I AM APPLYING FOR A VISA IN UK. I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE AUTHORIZED AGENCY FOR THE PROCESSING OF VISA
AND THE PERSONS THAT ARE CONNECTED
IN EACH AGENCY IF POSSIBLE. THANKS
Can I ask for your help if it is really a need for aan applicant to pay for the working visa, processing and the rest when going to UK for a job.
I have applied to work in one of the hospital there but I am not sure if it is really a need for me to send all the necessary payment for my application of visa. thanks
Does anyone have the seem situation as me. I was granted under HSMP for 4 years and need to extend due to chenge of PR rule. Under the language requirement, I only did a 600 in toefl (paper-based) in 2001, it doesn't not include a speaking exam. Would it be ok, cause ielts has speaking exam? Thanks!
Hi,
How many does it takes to get the HSMP visa from the date of applying.
Thanks,
Khan
Hi, I have a BE in computer science (4 years)from Bharathidasan University from India. I wish to know whether I need to get my degree assessed by NARIC before submitting my application.
Hi..
Please let me know-
1.In the previous earning section-in the letter my employer has given they have mentioned my salary for the last two years in the financial year format i.e.april 2005-march,2006 and april 2006-march,2007..will it be good enough or do they want the employer to mention only those 12 months for which you are claiming..also will any employer be willing to give a such a letter? please help...
2-Has anyone attached Form 16? is that required?
3-I have gotten a letter from my college stating that the 4 year BE was taught in english..is that sufficient evidence in the english language requirement?I have not given IELTS..
please guys help!!!Thanks for your help in advance..
I have a Masters' degree from an independent UK institution. I want to find out if my university should be accredited by NARIC before I can get points for HSMP application
Thank you
Hello,
I'm pursuing MBA in the UK and am planning to apply for HSMP in the due course. I'm from India and my last gross salary was about GBP 8700 per annum.
I read the revised guideline for HSMP points scheme and the footnote for the points awarded for previous earnings said: "Points for this attribute are calculated as follows: non-sterling currency is converted to Sterling; the Sterling figure is then converted
to points taking account of the relative difference in the level of earnings between countries."
According to me, this means that they will take into account that earnings in India for an equivalent position cannot match that in the UK. Am I correct? If yes, could you comment about any conversion formula?
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english medium, Master's law degree in English medium, I have applied for H.S.M.P. in the month of April 2007 but till-today no results I received. On the other hand I wanted to know how many days an approval takes place from the date of application. If within the prescribed period the Home office i.e., H.S.M.P. team do not complete the said applcication, is there any chance for filing damages/compensation for causing agony, as I have paid requisite fee etc., Please give reply
hi, is there any chance to request HSMP team to dispose of my application on merits without filing any urgent material, as prescribed time has been elapsed.
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hi I am applying for HSMP visa from India and wanted to know what all educational certificates we need to submit. I have my masters degree and school certificates but my bachelor's degree has been damaged while sending it to a prospective employer through courier. Can I do something about it? Please advise
hi i have just received my hsmp approval letter andi have included my spouse and children in the application,can my husband act as a co sponsor to the application by providing is bank state ment and all other assets documents.
i have also be refuse entry clearance for visiting visa hope this is not going to affect my application.
hi is it possible for my mother to also be a co sponsor to my hsmp entry clearance application.
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